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Joe Potts's avatar

"the first endowment model"

WHAT "first endowment model?" I didn't notice it.

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I’d propose a different reason economists have tariff derangement syndrome. It’s culturally coded as nationalist/racist/trump, and most economists are culturally the opposite.

I think that drives 99% of the reaction. The points you make are perhaps 1%.

I noticed this during COVID, when I watched nearly** every “libertarian” economist I know turn into a raging authoritarian that abandoned all cost benefit analysis or philosophical principals because their social class (urban professionals) had decided that that there was a culturally coded response and that was that. A lot of ink got spent rationalizing that response, but it was pretty transparent at the time and many can now look back on it with shame.

Personally, I find income taxes more distortionary than tariffs. Income taxes make me want to work and save less. I’ve responded to high income taxes in this way.

Tariffs basically work like a consumption tax. Cheap dollar store stuff is no longer a dollar, so I buy less of it. This really doesn’t have a big impact on me. Childcare is now cheaper (my income and their income is taxed less) so I consume more of it. Our families entire decision about whether to have a second income or not basically comes down to income taxes and childcare costs (childcare providers also pay income taxes).

In general I think my consumption basket (including work/leisure/saving) has improved under tariffs*. The same would is true of say an alcohol tax. Yes, it distorts my consumption of alcohol, but perhaps that’s a good thing.

I’m not convinced that the current exponentially growing trade deficit is a good thing. I won’t rehash it all in this comment, but I don’t think “borrow ever increasing amounts of money we can’t/aren’t going to pay back from financially repressed Asians so we can consume more” is a good long run pattern of specialization and trade.

*I speak of this pretty theoretically. At 1% or so of gdp, tariffs aren’t really changing anything at all. People are just going to pay the 15%, the impact on overall prices and income taxes rates will be practically zero. $300b a year? After twenty years maybe that will add up to two years of Covid deficits, lol.

The biggest change to my economic incentives was moving to Florida because it lowered my income taxes and gave me school vouchers, the combination of which greatly increased the post tax/expense value of my wife’s career. Go MAGA!

**you can of course find a few economists that signed things like the great barrington declaration. But I speak from observing the orange line libertarian economist class in general, let alone economists in general who tend to be left wing (think of Paul krugman as like a median avatar for your average phd economist).

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